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Mystery Plates

Whether it is murder or a parking violation, it's awful to be accused of something you didn't do. In this case the guy's car hasn't left his garage in years and the plates are still in the wrapper in his New Jersey home. But somehow he got tickets not once but twice in Manhattan. Oh, by the way, the victim here is also a cop.

Instead of being concerned that there is someone running around with counterfeit plates or there's some fishy ticket writing out there, the system makes an innocent victim go through hell. The mentality of the judges in the scenario is absurd. They are making the assumption that the guy is up to something. He provides them with evidence that his car is a black Camaro not a blue Suburban but they want more proof… Huh?

In order to request more evidence or rule guilty, the judges would have to believe that this guy was switching plates on cars (a crime). But as esteemed officers of the court, they didn't report the "crime" they conjured up in their minds; they just kept on busting the guy's tail.

Since this was a New Jersey plate, the registration cannot be scanned with the so called "accurate" scanners. The plate is manually entered on the ticket along with other information. Many of the judges do not even know that the "accurate" can be manually overridden. They assume that since it's a scanned ticket that it has to be the right car… Wrong.

The State Supreme court (re: parking tickets) has ruled that unless a respondent's argument is not "patently incredible" or "obviously a lie" the burden of proof shifts back to the city. In this case the guy had a very solid argument. But the standard of proof here seems to be "Guilty until proven innocent beyond and above any reasonable doubt."

I'd love to hear from you.

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  • Hi John,


    I have another good one to share with you.  


    My car dealer called me today to let me know that my plates are ready to pick up for the new car.    The receptionist said, "the registration was $17. short, so you can pay that when you pick them up".   But when she said that, I remembered hearing her say that to another customer while I was there a week ago, and thought it was too much of a coincidence, so I asked her how much the DMV charges for registration were, and she said $289.00, I then said "well my truth-in-lending form shows that I was charged $360.00 for registration fees, so you owe me $71.00, no?   She choked, and put me on the phone with her boss and he didn't know what to say either so he said "I'm in a meeting, I will have to call you back later."


    If they sell 10 cars per day, that racket adds up to $710.00 per day, or $21,300.00 per month for them.


    Companies get away with so much because people are to busy to look at their forms in instances like this.    I guess he couldn't think of a good excuse, because he never called back.   But I'm not picking my plates up until they can explain that one.


    Jane

    Former Member , 1 month ago | Flag
  • I saw the segment last night and was shocked to hear it had happened to other people because it happened to me a few years ago... and I figured it was just a fluke. 


    I was out of town on a business trip for 3 days and parked my car at EWR's long term parking. When I got back, I got a parking ticket from the City of Hoboken for the middle day of my trip... yup, the day my car was in EWR's lot for the full 24 hours.


    I went to city hall to explain what happened and brought my receipt (with my license # on it!) from the EWR airport. But all I did was ask which line to get into for my situation and I was yelled at by the traffic violation office worker! He didn't even give me a chance to explain!


    Long story short, I was sent from one office to another... I went to three offices by the time I looped back to the original line I was in. Each and every person was so accusatory that what started as a trip to the City Hall about a mistake that I was ready to laugh off, turned into tears and trauma. (At one point, they wouldn't even let me into the office they directed me to- and I had to CALL THEM from inside the building from my cell before they let me in!).


    After all that, they still didn't realize their mistake! They just told me I had to come back at a court date! 


    Ironically, when the date came, I went back... and was told the fine was paid off!


    Obviously they had written down the wrong plate # (the make/model didn't match!), but what an emotionally exhausting experience, just because of a mistake!

    rachelc77, 1 month ago | Flag
  • I saw the segment last night and was shocked to hear it had happened to other people because it happened to me a few years ago... and I figured it was just a fluke. 


    I was out of town on a business trip for 3 days and parked my car at EWR's long term parking. When I got back, I got a parking ticket from the City of Hoboken for the middle day of my trip... yup, the day my car was in EWR's lot for the full 24 hours.


    I went to city hall to explain what happened and brought my receipt (with my license # on it!) from the EWR airport. But all I did was ask which line to get into for my situation and I was yelled at by the traffic violation office worker! He didn't even give me a chance to explain!


    Long story short, I was sent from one office to another... I went to three offices by the time I looped back to the original line I was in. Each and every person was so accusatory that what started as a trip to the City Hall about a mistake that I was ready to laugh off, turned into tears and trauma. (At one point, they wouldn't even let me into the office they directed me to- and I had to CALL THEM from inside the building from my cell before they let me in!).


    After all that, they still didn't realize their mistake! They just told me I had to come back at a court date! 


    Ironically, when the date came, I went back... and was told the fine was paid off!


    Obviously they had written down the wrong plate # (the make/model didn't match!), but what an emotionally exhausting experience, just because of a mistake!

    rachelc77, 1 month ago | Flag
  • Jane,


    Unfortunately in this case and others, they are assuming that the person who got the ticket is up to something. The he switched plates on a car (a crime) to avoid parking ticke

    Johndeutzman, 1 month ago | Flag
  • Wow.....tough city this New York!  


    The same thing happened to me in NJ a few years ago.  I got a letter for an unpaid ticket at the Jersey Shore in May of 05, and I called them and told them I was never there in May, and they asked me if my car was a green 2 door, and I said no, a gold 4 door, and they said "okay, no problem", and that was the end of the ticket.


    Jane

    Former Member , 1 month ago | Flag

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